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Subject: sssocialism      From: RR
3/30/2010 5:54:27 AM


Jim wrote:

I wonder, some people live too many years on Social Security as opposed to many who don't even get to the age of 65... ain't that socialism Robert? And what's your solution


Aw, drat ... Jim, Jim, Jim ... Those almost seem like loaded questions.

There are simple answers, and then there's a more realistic, lengthier analysis. Trying to make sense of the last 75 years of history, and all the legislation that's been passed -- and especially to offer reasoned solutions -- seems like a task well beyond the scope of this little software forum, don't ya think?

Simple Reply:

Of course Social Security is a socialist program. That's obvious -- it's one of the crown jewels. The S.S. Act, and its supposed Trust Fund are merely sleight-of-hand fiction, sold to the American public as "insurance" for their old age. But the truth is, there has never been an actual "trust fund," and eventually the whole thing is going to collapse. It was predestined.

Regrettably (for us), both Social Security and Medicare (as well as their welfare counterparts, S.S.I. and Medicaid) will inevitably come crashing down. That's the reason President Clinton proposed that a quarter of the funds set aside for Social Security be invested in the stock market. That's the reason President Bush tried to push through an alternate "savings" account (again with the government investing into private corporations, and thereby becoming co-owners). And that's one of the reasons President Obama is pursuing government expansion with such enthusiam. We just reached a tipping point within the last few weeks, when the Congressional Budget Office announced that Social Security is now operating off IOUs from the Treasury Department. It's "crunch time," and the only solution our legislators can imagine is taking socialism to the next level.

Liberty? ...au revoir. ...c'est la vie

"Let us consider, my lords, that arbitrary power has seldom or never been introduced into a country at once. It must be introduced by slow degrees, and, as it were, step by step, lest the people should see it approach. The barriers and fences of the people's liberty must be plucked up one by one, and some plausible pretense must be found for removing or hoodwinking, one after another, those sentries who are posted by the constitution of a free country, forewarning the people of their danger. When these preparatory steps are once made, the people may then, indeed, with regret, see slavery and arbitrary power making long strides over their land; but it will be too late to think of preventing or avoiding the impending ruin."

-- Lord Erskine, 1792 (Defending Thomas Paine in London)






Robert ...gratia autem Dei, sum id quod sum

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